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Post by amoz on Dec 8, 2006 19:53:19 GMT 1
Uiteindelijk draait het vooral rond geld voor het meerendeel van de artiesten. Ze zullen badman, anti-battyman, rasta,... lyrics zingen als het geld binnen brengt. Zo simpel is het eigenlijk. Absoluut. Trouwens een heel goeie illustratie van het begrip hypocrisie.  |
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Post by td rankin on Dec 9, 2006 21:26:44 GMT 1
wel what you poeple 4get to realize is that God deal with poeple in diffrent ways and do to the action to that person at that time bring about the name for example when he help fight a battle for jushua the popel call him johonva (nisim )which means my defender and when he provide for the children of isreal in the in the widerness they call him( jireh) which means my provider and to moses (i am the iam )and to elijah another name when he answer his prayer by fire and to meichark chedrak and adbenigo is another name and daniel in the lion cage what i am trying to say is that the name you call him dont realy matter is what you believe ,for the just shall live by faith so my brethen i might make mistake but i am just another person like you will desire to learn about the almighty one any question you have to ask i will be willy to answer you takecare and jahblesss.TD
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Post by fire-a-dept on Dec 9, 2006 22:05:22 GMT 1
Just my meaning but i think that a lot of veel people hier spreek very slecht english. En also just my meaning maar i think that de sizzla of the nineties would not have found the sizzla of after the jaare twothousand a very plezante gast. Denicenialic schizofreniasism |
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Post by Miss Jigal on Dec 9, 2006 23:31:26 GMT 1
Just my opinion, but I don't think u can judge people by the way they write. 'sxuse me, but not everybody has the chance of going to school during years, yu know! U, mr. Fire-a-dept did, and still u make fun of those people. What did u do with your education? For sure u don't use it! Prefer to laugh. Well, I'm not laughing here!
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Post by fire a dept on Dec 10, 2006 9:13:34 GMT 1
Miss Jigal, je moet niet direct zo in uw gat gebeten zijn: ik veroordeel helemaal niemand, ik stel gewoon vast dat 95 procent van de mensen op dit forum nederlands als moedertaal heeft en toch verworden sommige topics tot een bargoens koeterwaals. And thereby, if you are dan toch so uptight about mensen judgen, you have wel just me gejudget eh. En je hebt gelijk dat niet iedereen de kans heeft gehad jaren naar school te gaan, maar de plicht.  |
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Post by iriedaily on Dec 10, 2006 14:08:32 GMT 1
Ghetto youths use guns to kill each other not opressors.
The modern society makes the small(poor) hate each others while the rich and powerfull enjoy their money.
I am sorry that you are supporting a man that thinks that guns and life mix. In my book the 2 don't mix.
I can't force anyone to listen to conscious roots but I can push that oportunity forward so people can see both possibilities.
I am sorry that you jumped to give me negative karma before actually thinking what my message was.
"this is a free world where everyone is free to sing what they want. and if u know u dont like to hear the music then dont listen..."
This post says a lot about your age. You have no idea how much the lyrics of one song can influence the fragile mind of youths. Please take this into consideration before posting again such nonsense.
"Leave that conscious crap aside, with that i don't mean to criticize conscious songtexts, but surely you're just not ready for the dancehall."
You think you know but you have no idea. You have no clue what consciousness is. Listen to some Johnny Clarke, Roman Stewart, Jah Shaka, Barry Brown and then come here and preach slackness to me babe. You got lots more learning to do.
Hail Jah!
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Post by fire-a-dept on Dec 10, 2006 14:52:30 GMT 1
En ik maar denken dat de armen doorheen de geschiedenis onderdrukt werden door de rijken via het geloof - opium voor het volk noemde onze karl dat. Hail Zelfbewustzijn  |
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Post by iriedaily on Dec 10, 2006 15:06:25 GMT 1
Karl Marx was right about religion for a certain period of time.
Things have changed now fire-a-dept. You should check Zygmunt Bauman to see where the modern society is at today.
Irie bless!
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Post by ras Feel Flashman on Dec 10, 2006 19:55:22 GMT 1
If yuh cyant ovahstand some patois or even "modified" patois (Euro-version  , nor plain "world" English (Ghana, Nigeria, Ethiopia, India, RSA...), how can you ever be listening to the lyrics in the reggae music? Unthinkable to be a selecta with that handicap! Maybe espaniol or Swedish reggae is your thing? Now listen: I think the sister is right; that anger and frustration is very well there in many parts of the world! Things are still going stiff(er) fe di poor and dem bloody capitalists are sucking the blood out of the innocent ones, polluting the Earth with their waste! Is 400 years of slavery and still no equality! Peter Tosh said: "I am a Freedom Fighter, I nuh use no gun, I use my guitar as a weapon in this REVOLUTION, take away my guitar and I pick up a gun." So Sizzla him gone commercial hey? I for myself I think di whole business deh gone commercial after the 1985 CIA planned coup 'd etat inna Jamdung. If I check that nowadays dance hall scene, I often wonder if there is any difference between plain commercial pop and even Flamish crap: if yuh wanna hear slackness, check some oldies my uncle used to listen too: "vuile moppen aan den toog" by Tony Bell. ;D Island just sold out... On the other hand bridges FROM babblewrong are needed, I think the dance hall provides just that: many are called, few are chosen. But me for myself I think it was easier way back in the days of old, coming from the hippie scene and into roots reggae music, than for the youths today growing up in these times  So lets say Sizzla just stepped down a bit to go and save some souls down inna babblewrong: from those who start to love his nowadays music, a few will eventually find his more rootsy lyrics refreshing and strengthening, probably, they will real-ise some thruths & rights & justice, a zeal, a power to go thru... By the way, I would even love to see the whole board in English, how can we communicate wift some elders and true rastafarians all over the world if it wasn't but thru this language? Or maybe some Amharic  Selam enna fikre (peace & love), ras Feel |
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Post by CaribBean Islands on Dec 11, 2006 12:52:28 GMT 1
If Britney would all of the sudden start to do conscious music, would you appreciate that or would you consider it a fraud?
I don't understand why Sizzla cannot change his way of thinking, like it's a setback going from conscious to commercial.
maybe he need the money to support a family? or two?
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Post by Jah Rebel on Dec 11, 2006 14:17:33 GMT 1
That last one is a quoteby someone who clearly does not know what true consciousnes means. True consciousnes through Rastafari means a liberation mentally and spiritually. Once you found that or it has found you, you just don't turn away from that like changing from Coke to Pepsi. Its a life changing spiritual event. If you do "change" like Sizzla has done, you haven't really found it in the first place in my opinion, and maybe you were faking all along.
And I don't think the big issue is wether music is commercial yes or no. What woul be better than a conscious message reachin' accross the world? No rasta could be against that. The big issue here is spreading a negative image and message to highly influenciable youths all over the planet.
Ites,
Rebel
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Post by Jah Rebel on Dec 11, 2006 14:21:07 GMT 1
Oh and just saw a short interview from ARTE with the Congos linked to me by Visionz where Cedric Myton clearly states: "Dancehall is porn". I can't really disagree.
Ites,
Rebel
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Post by Sifakah on Dec 11, 2006 18:24:11 GMT 1
Tja 't is mssn not all about lyrics (zeker nie op een feestje), maar ze zij er ook nie voor niks eh. Elke keer als't 'heads high' van Vegas is vraag ik mij af hoeveel volk er weet waarover den tekst eigelijk gaat. Maar anyway, mssn  |
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Post by Selector Waxx on Dec 11, 2006 18:36:39 GMT 1
dancehall is slack en redelijk dancevloer gericht, dus niet zo complex qua inhoud, dat is waar, maar alle dansmuziek in ruime zin van het woord, en zeker ook roots reggae (remember Trojan X-Rated ea themalp's) heeft die kantjes, dancehall is alleen explicieter in alles dan de meeste. Maar soms beland ik wel eens in een houseclub zoals een paar weken geleden, en wat men daar dikwijls ertussen smijt is veel platter. In de zogenaamde hippe en goede electroclash heb je ook veel slack (zoals Peaches, die er haar handelskenmerk van maakt). En je wil niet weten wat sommige breakcore producers die ik ken samplen in hun nummers, enz...
het belangrijkste is dat je er niet te veel belang aan hecht en het niet te serieus neemt. Er bestaat ook andere muziek, voor andere gelegenheden.
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Post by Sifakah on Dec 11, 2006 18:44:22 GMT 1
Dermee da ik ook zei da mijn post wa was, omdat het hier meer een discussie is over guntalk en nie echt over slackness. |
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, nor plain "world" English (Ghana, Nigeria, Ethiopia, India, RSA...), how can you ever be listening to the lyrics in the reggae music? Unthinkable to be a selecta with that handicap! Maybe espaniol or Swedish reggae is your thing?
