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Post by Jah Rebel on May 20, 2008 15:38:03 GMT 1
Vandaag op BBC World, Hardtalk (doorlopend herhaald) met de Jamaicaanse PM Bruce Golding over het geweld en de homofobie in Jamaica. MUST SEE!!!
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Post by Stigen on May 20, 2008 22:27:14 GMT 1
kunde da ontvange met de gewone kabel?
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Post by Jah Rebel on May 21, 2008 0:41:44 GMT 1
Vrees ervoor, enkel digitaal denk ik...
Ites, Rebel
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Post by fire-a-dept on May 21, 2008 6:48:01 GMT 1
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Post by Jah Rebel on May 21, 2008 10:51:55 GMT 1
Uit de Gleaner van vandaag:
'What Jamaica wants' - Church, gays divided on PM's BBC interview published: Wednesday | May 21, 2008
Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown (right) greets Jamaica's Prime Minister Bruce Golding at his residence, 10 Downing Street, in London, yesterday. During the meeting, Golding told Brown that institutions like the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank needed to reform their approach to middle-income countries like Jamaica when dealing with debt relief and debt-servicing discussions. As a result of the talks, a decision was taken for Great Britain to provide Jamaica with technical assistance in dealing with international financial organisations on issues of financing and debt relief. - AP
Prime Minister Bruce Golding's firm stance against homosexuality in Jamaica on an international talk show has drawn both support and sharp criticism from within the nation and the diaspora.
Yesterday, president of the Jamaican Diaspora Foundation in Canada, Phillip Mascoll, argued that while same-sex marriages were allowed in Canada, buggery remained a crime in Jamaica and the law should be obeyed.
"The prime minister, being a politician, has to do what the people want him to do," Mascoll said.
Golding, who was responding to questions posed by Stephen Sackur on the BBC talk show Hardtalk, said he would not be pressured by outsiders to recognise homosexual rights.
"We're going to have to determine that for ourselves and we're going to have to determine to what extent those values will adapt over time to change; change in perception, change in understanding, as to how people live," he said.
Golding also declared he would not allow homosexuals to form part of his Cabinet.
Jason McFarlane, spokesman for local gay lobby group, the Jamaica Forum for Lesbians All Sexuals and Gays (JFLAG), told The Gleaner yesterday that Golding's utterances on a British talk show Monday night would have serious implications for Jamaica's international image.
However, McFarlane did not expand on his concerns.
Jamaica has been facing increasing pressure from international lobby groups to repeal its buggery laws and give more support for rights of homosexuals.
Local clergyman Errol Rattray, of the Errol Rattray Evangelistic Association, was also supportive of Golding's stance.
"I commend the prime minister for being bold enough to express such a position on the international stage," Rattray said. "There is a line that should be drawn when it comes to diplomacy and the truth, and while you can be diplomatic, you must always be truthful and everybody has a conscience that guides them."
However, former New York City councilwoman Una Clarke, said she believed a potential Cabinet minister should not be rejected based on his or her sexual orientation.
She insisted that individuals must be selected based on their level of competence and their behaviour in public.
"If you have your lifestyle, you live your lifestyle, and it's not anybody's business but your own," said Clarke. "Nobody needs to put a sanction on it - right or wrong."
Ites, Rebel
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Post by Jah Rebel on May 21, 2008 10:55:37 GMT 1
En nog eentje uit The Jamaica Observer:
No room for gays Not in my Cabinet, says Golding
Wednesday, May 21, 2008 Prime Minister Bruce Golding has forcefully reiterated that homosexuals have no place in his Cabinet, even as he sought to assure gay people that attitudes towards same-sex unions are changing in Jamaica and that the state respects their right to privacy.
In a sometimes combative interview with journalist Stephen Sackur on the British Broadcasting Corporation Television's (BBC-TV's) discussion show, Hardtalk, aired yesterday, Golding was emphatic in his declaration that Jamaica would not bow to the dictates of lobby groups who want to define standards and morals for the island.
Asked by Sackur whether he was more accepting now of homosexuals, given his declaration in 2006 when he was in Opposition that homosexuals will "find no solace" in any Cabinet formed by him, Golding said that in appointing a Cabinet a prime minister exercises judgement. "That is his exclusive responsibility. There's no right to being in a Cabinet," he said.
Sackur, apparently not satisfied with Golding's answer, said: "No, but you've just told me that you believe that Jamaica is on track to give real equality before the law to homosexuals. But you yourself have said that homosexuals will find no solace in any Cabinet formed by me." Golding, however, shot back: "That has nothing to do with equality before the law."
Sackur pressed further, asking Golding: "Do you not have a duty to consider people on their merits?" to which the prime minister replied that he considered people in terms of their ability and the extent to which they are going to be able to exercise their function with independence.
When Sackur suggested that Golding clearly considered appointing people to his Cabinet based on their sexuality, the prime minister said that it was his responsibility to appoint an executive that will discharge its duties without fear, favour and intimidation.
"What kind of signal does that send about Jamaica to the outside world, indeed to potential investors." asked Sackur.
"One signal that it sends is that Jamaica is not going to allow values to be imposed on it from outside," replied Golding. "We're gonna have to determine that ourselves, and we're gonna have to determine to what extent those values will adapt over time to change, to changing perceptions and to changing understandings as to how people live, but it can't be on the basis that lobby groups, far away from Jamaica, are going to start to define for Jamaica how it must establish its own standards and its own morals."
Jamaica has had a long battle with rights groups who have consistently lambasted the island for its strong opposition to homosexuality.
The previous People's National Party Government has, on more than one occasion, told gay lobbyists that they should not try to force the island to accept their way of life. In the BBC interview, Sackur asked Golding whether he would want to live in a Jamaica in the future where homosexuals can be a part of his Cabinet or any Cabinet.
"I want to live in a Jamaica where persons are free to conduct their private relations," Golding replied. "But I'm not talking about leading Jamaica in a direction where its own values are going to be assaulted by others."
Sackur, however, was still not satisfied. "With respect, that is not an answer to my question," he said. "Let me put it to you one more time. Do you, in the future, want to live in a Jamaica where a gay man or a gay woman can be in the Cabinet?"
Golding replied: "Sure they can be in the Cabinet; not mine." Sackur: "But do you want to live in a Jamaica where they can be and they should be and it would be entirely natural for them to be so?"
Golding: "I do not know that that is necessarily the direction in which I want my country to go."
Earlier in the interview, in response to Sackur's reference to violent attacks on men accused of being homosexuals in Jamaica, Golding said that the authorities were clear that crimes against persons because of their sexual orientation must be pursued with the same vigour as any other crime.
He also explained that while Jamaica had a long-standing culture that is very opposed to homosexuality, there is greater acceptance now that people have different lifestyles and that their privacy must be respected.
Ites, Rebel
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Post by L0RD LYTA on May 22, 2008 11:05:37 GMT 1
Vrees ervoor, enkel digitaal denk ik... Ites, Rebel a little late but nope, BBC World is available also with the usual integan cable, 160.25 MHz is the frequency. No room for gays Not in my Cabinet, says Golding same here, & it's way too small anyway
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