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Post by messenjah on Aug 29, 2005 14:05:10 GMT 1
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Denjah
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Straight outta The Hague City, original badman town..
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Post by Denjah on Aug 29, 2005 14:24:58 GMT 1
"There is cuurently no text in this page"
De link werkt niet ofzo... Wat was er zo schokkend dan?
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Post by Visionz on Aug 29, 2005 14:45:32 GMT 1
"There is cuurently no text in this page" De link werkt niet ofzo... Wat was er zo schokkend dan? was dus ne (legale) rave in Utah die nogal brutaal is stilgelegd door de politie : idisk.mac.com/apexgrin/Public/fascism.wmv"Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.
So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...
At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off.
The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.
No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.
Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..
- One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.
- The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.
- The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now."
Now.. let's get the facts straight here.
This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.
Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!
Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con's with an agenda.
This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary?
This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULLSHIT!
The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.
I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work. |
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Post by benjahmin on Aug 29, 2005 14:47:39 GMT 1
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Post by messenjah on Aug 29, 2005 17:46:28 GMT 1
"There is cuurently no text in this page" De link werkt niet ofzo... Wat was er zo schokkend dan? Link copy/pasten, dan gaat het wel |
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Post by Rebel aka Rocketlauncha on Aug 29, 2005 23:40:16 GMT 1
Ben van Antwerpen en woon al drie jaar hier in het zogenaamde Zion(voor Mormonen).
Het is niet toegestaan om te dansen na een uur 's nachts, alcohol wordt geserveerd tot een uur 's nachts en om twee uur is alles dicht met zware politie controles zodra de bars sluiten. Dit is maar een van de vele vormen hoe de amerikaanse overheid de bevolking hier onderdrukt. Drie weken voor deze rave was ik uitgenodigd om een reggae, dancehall set te spelen door dezelfde promotors die ook deze rave hebben georganiseerd, voor we het wisten was Bobby Babylon al present en ook die keer zijn mensen gearresteerd voor ganja, minderjarig drinken(legale leeftijd is 21)
Dansen in Utah is gevaarlijk, en is alleen toegestaan op kerk. Dit is een van de meest conservatieve staten in de US en het zal er niet op beteren, kan niet wachten om nog is te komen feesten in Antwerpen waar we lang na twee uur 's nachts blijven door gaan.
Big up all Antwerp Massive
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Post by Crewza on Aug 30, 2005 8:32:27 GMT 1
Zeg niet dat dit ver van je bed is, want probeer in België maar eens een GOA te organiseren. Dat kan ook niet meer. Door één of andere rondzendbrief worden alle GOA's geviseerd en van tevoren verboden.De flikken zijn dan misschien nog niet zo geweldadig als in de US, maar wat is het volgende?
Hoe lang gaat het duren voordat reggae feestjes worden verboden (vanwege druggebruik)?
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Post by ak47 on Aug 30, 2005 8:39:58 GMT 1
Zeg niet dat dit ver van je bed is, want probeer in België maar eens een GOA te organiseren. Dat kan ook niet meer. Door één of andere rondzendbrief worden alle GOA's geviseerd en van tevoren verboden.De flikken zijn dan misschien nog niet zo geweldadig als in de US, maar wat is het volgende? Hoe lang gaat het duren voordat reggae feestjes worden verboden (vanwege druggebruik)? Is da ook niet de fout van de media? Ik ben nog nooit op een GOA-event geweest maar toch komt mij om de een of andere reden een beeld van dreadlockdragende xtc en paddo slikkende flipkoppen voor de geest. Tis inderdaad te hopen dat dat niet met reggae gaat gebeuren want reggae en wietpaffen wordt ook altijd in dezelfde zin vermeld. En voor de mensen van dien rave in Utah. Damn da moet verschieten zijn als daar ineens zo'ne robocop voor u neus staat...  |
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Denjah
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Straight outta The Hague City, original badman town..
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Post by Denjah on Aug 30, 2005 8:50:19 GMT 1
Tis inderdaad te hopen dat dat niet met reggae gaat gebeuren want reggae en wietpaffen wordt ook altijd in dezelfde zin vermeld. Komen jullie toch gezellig met z'n allen in Nederland feesten? Hier in holland is de politie (of 'flikken') niets waard.. Ze hebben totaal geen gezag! En wiet roken mag  Bless... |
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Post by Crewza on Aug 30, 2005 10:16:17 GMT 1
Exact, daarom vond ik Sundance nog net iets relaxer dan Geel of Dour. Hoewel dat de controles daar de laatste jaren ook wel meevallen, maar ge moet nog oppassen wat ge doet. Daar heb je in Nederland dan weer geen last van.
In Oudenaarde daarentegen, was het dit weekend weer een heksenjacht. Tegen weed welteverstaan, want tegen die slikkers en snuivers doen ze blijkbaar niks. En tegen dronken chauffeurs al helemaal niet. Op en rond het terrein krioelde het van de flikken, maar zodra je weg reed, was er niets van alcoholcontrole te zien.
Applausje voor de Flikken van Oudenaarde !! Die de jongeren meer en meer naar minder opvallende (minder ruikbare) drugs drijft.
"Well I might not be familiar with how the country's run,
but while they're fighting sensemilia, making way for coke to come !!!"
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Post by Friendly on Aug 30, 2005 22:34:24 GMT 1
In Oudenaarde daarentegen, was het dit weekend weer een heksenjacht. jep, wij zijn met heel veel chance (er werd just voor ons iemand uit de rij gepikt door de hond) voorbij dienen drugshond geraakt. Binnen wel geen last gehad |
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Post by vikthekid on Aug 31, 2005 8:15:41 GMT 1
Land Of The Free?
als je miljoenen op je amerikaanse bank staan hebt wel misschien ja...
:-)
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